tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-74619518330010524222024-03-05T09:19:10.063-08:00Fans Against CriminalisationFans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-27639239203915594862014-08-11T08:31:00.001-07:002014-08-11T08:31:15.473-07:00Police complaint updateDear all<br />
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<b>First (Glasgow) Complaint</b><br />
In the last post we gave you the police response to our complaint regarding the events surrounding our protest at SNP Spring conference in Aberdeen on Saturday 12th April. Effectively they dismissed all aspects of our complaint. We then referred the matter to the Police Investigations Review Committee.<br />
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PIRC wrote to Police Service of Scotland and asked for all the papers so they could conduct their review. The Professional Standards Department of Police Scotland contacted us to say that having looked at it again they could identify some gaps or deficiencies in their response and would we be willing to let them look at it again. Being reasonable people, we agreed to that and this process is taking place now. We look forward to hearing from them in this regard and we'll keep you posted.<br />
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<b>Second (Glasgow) Complaint</b><br />
This complaint, which relates to the interference by the Licensing Division of the PSS based at London Road, Glasgow into an event which FAC was organising is currently being investigated.<br />
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An FoI request associated with the complaint which sought to get to the bottom of who instructed this interference and how they came to know about an event which was not publicised has been submitted and a response received. The response cited 3 separate reasons for not providing the 3 pieces of information we requested. A review has now been requested and we will keep you posted about that too.<br />
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A complaint to the Investigatory Powers Tribunal has been submitted today to try to ascertain if the police are intercepting the calls of at least one FAC organiser and whether this is how they obtained information relating to the events behind both the first and second (Glasgow) complaints.<br />
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<b>Aberdeen complaint</b><br />
We have no update on this at this point.<br />
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<br />Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-46916527579009803102014-07-10T09:12:00.000-07:002014-07-10T09:12:15.746-07:00Response to our complaint against the Police re SNP Conference ProtestDear all<br />
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Yesterday we received a response to our complaint. Timely, since we had just submitted a second complaint about Police Service of Scotland interference in the affairs of FAC (about which more tomorrow).<br />
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I am copying the response below. We will add no commentary at this point as the gaps and flaw in this response are fairly obvious but also because we will be sending a note of our dissatisfaction to the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner (PIRC) shortly and we will keep our powder dry till then <i>(note to officer who monitors our social media output: this is a colloquial expression in standard English usage and does not constitute 'intelligence' that we are planning to use explosives at some future date).</i><br />
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<br />Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-182173244385194042014-07-08T09:30:00.001-07:002014-07-08T09:30:19.652-07:00Police Complaint Update: 7 July 2014Just to let you all know that we have not yet received a formal written response to our complaint regarding the policing of the FAC protest at the SNP Spring conference in Aberdeen in April (see earlier posts for details).<br />
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The officer charged with investigating the complaint did attempt to give a verbal update but I curtailed the conversation when it became clear that he was happy to tell me things that were frankly implausible. Well, maybe happy is not the correct word, <i>willing</i> is probably the more accurate way to describe it.<br />
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We were informed that the report would be completed around 25th June and that a senior officer would issue a written response to me. So far, no response has been received, but I will inform you all when one arrives!<br />
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In the meantime, a complaint being progressed by my MSP has elicited a response from Chief Constable House of the Police Service of Scotland in which he denies knowing we were followed (a fact already admitted by the complaint investigation officer!); claims we were planning to march from McDonalds with a group of around 200 to the AECC that day (chance would have been a fine thing) and that this was why the Section 12 Notice was issued; and when asked if Police Scotland had any contact with anyone representing the SNP prior to the decision being taken to issue a Section 12 Notice, replied that 'Chief Inspector Topping' had had no such contact.<br />
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The eagle-eyed among you will notice that this was not the question asked but most of you will not know that at the point the Section 12 Notice was issued, all 19 of us were already at the AECC so whatever he was trying to do, it was not preventing a 'march' from McDonalds to the AECC since we had already arrived!<br />
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One further point, we have yet more evidence of Police Service of Scotland interference in FAC activities.......more of that later - once we have submitted the relevant official complaint!Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-16052980206775852142014-06-07T15:08:00.002-07:002014-06-07T15:08:38.714-07:00Police Complaint Update: 7 June 2014<span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">The officer investigating the complaint has now spoken to some more of the protesting FACers from the SNP Conference protest and informs me that:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: Times, "Times New Roman", serif;">So hopefully very soon we will get some kind of explanation of what happened.....or we won't in which case we will need to take it further! </span></span></div>
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-59803452017220265972014-05-20T11:06:00.002-07:002014-05-20T11:06:53.310-07:00Police Complaint update: 19/20 May 2014I have copied below the exchange of emails which took place yesterday and today with some personal details redacted - please read from the bottom:<br />
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What I hope to achieve from the process is to find out the following:</div>
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<li>Who made the decision to issue us with a Section 12 Notice and why.
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I hope to receive a full explanation and as a resolution I would like
someone to acknowledge that the policing of our group was excessive,
intimidating, unnecessary and will not be repeated in similar
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Yours sincerely</div>
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">When completing any
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email exchange in the days leading up to the event was with Inspector Doug
Rae. I had a phone conversation on the Friday and Saturday with another
officer whose name I cannot recall. Inspector Rae had previously asked for my
permission to pass my contact number on to the other officer, so he will be able
to confirm that officer’s name. </span>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">Please
see below my contact details. The telephone number if required, is a direct
dial and whilst I have an answer machine, you can also get a message to myself
on the 101 number - whichever is most convenient for you.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">I have
discovered, after our earlier telephone conversation, that you sent an email to
Police Scotland querying when someone would be in touch. I was not aware of
this when we spoke and I apologise for this delay, albeit as explained on the
phone, the Complaint took some time to end up with myself. Now that we have
spoken and I have provided you my own contact details, I will ensure I keep you
updated throughout my enquiries and the Complaint process.</span></div>
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stage if you require to discuss anything, please feel free to make contact
direct with me and I will do my best to answer any query you may
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on from out telephone conversation of this morning, if you could please provide
me with the following information which will assist the enquiry into your
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</span></span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">The
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</span></span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">The
names of the other individuals who wish to make complaint and confirmation they
are happy for me to make contact with each of them.</span></div>
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</span></span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">Confirmation
that the Officer you had contact with in the days previous to the protest was an
Inspector Doug Rae ?</span></div>
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</span></span></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">The
surname of the local male, who has complained regarding the manner in
which he was dealt with whilst driving home from the
event.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">I look
forward to hearing from you in due course</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;">Regards</span></div>
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<b><span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language: en-gb;">Andy
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<b><i><span style="color: grey; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language: en-gb;">Sergeant
8664</span></i></b><b><i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language: en-gb;">
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City Division Service Delivery Unit </span></i></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-language: en-gb;"></span></b><b><span style="color: blue; mso-fareast-language: en-gb;"><br /></span></b></div>
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<br />Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-18000680176913386842014-05-19T05:38:00.001-07:002014-05-19T05:38:55.999-07:00Police complaint update: 19/5/14<u>Glasgow complaint</u> <br />
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This morning I was contacted by telephone by a Sgt Brown from Aberdeen City Police division of the Police Service of Scotland. He explained that the delay in responding to my complaint had arisen because there had been some discussion around which division would deal with it - Glasgow or Aberdeen. It had now reached his desk and he would make the initial investigations. He outlined the process but indicated that, in this case, it might be slightly different, since, to paraphrase him, the decisions in this case had clearly been made by senior officers and complaints have to be assessed by someone at least one rank above the officer in question so he was not sure where that would go. I resisted the temptation to ask him who was one rank above Stephen House....<br />
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Anyway, he took all the details of the complaint, most of which he had, and clarified some issues with me. I remembered some details while I spoke to him such as the fact that we had been filmed by police officers from inside the building and I advised him that three other protesters wished to complain along with me.<br />
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He indicated that he did not think that Aberdeen police would have asked for our bus to be followed and, as an aside, said he thought it this was surveillance, they hadn't made a very good job of it since we had spotted them!<br />
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He agreed to email me so that I could reply giving some additional details and, when asked, said that their timescale for responding is 56 days but that he would try to complete his investigations sooner.Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-85891358378311331892014-05-17T08:08:00.001-07:002014-05-17T08:08:24.609-07:00Complaint to Aberdeen police re SNP ProtestThis is the account of a FAC supporter who was stopped by the police on his way home from the protest and who has lodged a formal complaint: this will be referred to hereafter as the Aberdeen complaint to distinguish it from the complaint lodged in Glasgow<br />
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I attended the local police headquarters to formally make a complaint about
the "routine" stop and how the officer spoke to me .My friend who is studying law came with me to advise and to witness the complaint and took notes during the meeting.<br />
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The inspector took down my full complaint in writing and I signed it. He also read the information my witness had made and signed to verify it was a true and accurate record.<br />
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I was then informed he would investigate the complaint and get back to me in due course with his findings. He also said the complaint may well be passed to a independent board for consideration. <br />
<br />I allowed 21 days to pass as thought was fair amount of time to allow police to do what needed and I then contacted them for a update. I was told the "officer who is dealing with it is on holiday " I asked if
anyone else could deal with it and asked when the officer was due back as I'd like a
update<br />
<br /> I was told only he can deal with the complaint and that it was not 'information
you require' regarding a officers annual leave! At that point I thanked
him and left.<br />
<br />
I am very unsatisfied by how whole thing has been handled and I'm going to take further legal advice on this matter. I will, of course, keep you updated as things progress<br />
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I would like to thank all those involved with Fans Against Criminalisation &
Celtic Trust for their continued support also to everyone else who sent messages
of support<br />
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We must stand as one until the Offensive Behaviour Act is scrapped and this needs to be done immediately.<br />
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We are Fans not CriminalsFans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-16550828883485714322014-05-17T07:44:00.002-07:002014-05-17T07:44:41.666-07:00Police complaint update: Saturday 17th May 2014Oh Police Service of Scotland, you never write, you never call!<br />
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There are now three of us waiting to make this complaint and today I sent this email to the Professional Standards Department who kindly wrote to me 10 days ago telling me they would 'contact me in the near future'.<br />
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Dear Madam/Sir</div>
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I received this email on 7th May having made my initial complaint on Friday
2nd May. It is now, as you will no doubt be aware, Saturday 17th May. When you
say ‘near future’ as you do in your email detailed below, do you intend to imply
days, weeks or months? Most public bodies publish the timescales within which
complaints will be dealt with (and this is monitored by the Public Services
Ombudsman); does the Police Service of Scotland have published timescales for
dealing with complaints?</div>
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Very best wishes and looking forward to hearing from you soon.</div>
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ps When I say I am looking forward to hearing from you soon, I mean by
telephone or email. I am not looking forward to you turning up at my door for a
chat so please don’t.</div>
Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-79471060216572324152014-05-14T10:16:00.001-07:002014-05-14T10:16:29.315-07:00Police Complaint update: Wednesday 14th MayFor all those who have been sitting biting your fingernails and pacing up and down for the next instalment, here it is:<br />
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Did you see what I did there. No response from the Police Service of Scotland despite the fact that a week ago today I was told I would be contacted 'shortly'. Has anyone got any ideas how long shortly is?Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-14468480548454364242014-05-07T08:42:00.002-07:002014-05-07T08:42:36.501-07:00Police complaint update: Wednesday 7th May pm!Glasgow Complaint:<br />
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At 16.20 and again at 16.23 I received the following email with attachment:<br />
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<span lang="en-gb"><b><span style="color: red; font-family: Arial;">NOT PROTECTIVELY
MARKED</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></span><br />
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<span lang="en-gb"><b><span style="font-family: Arial;">COMPLAINT ABOUT THE
POLICE</span></b><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span></span></div>
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<span lang="en-gb"><span style="font-family: Arial;">I refer to your recent
contact with Police Scotland.</span></span></div>
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<span lang="en-gb"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Your complaint has been
recorded and the officer appointed to investigate your complaint may contact you
in the near future to discuss your concerns in greater detail.</span></span></div>
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<span lang="en-gb"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Since many members of the
public may be unaware of the formal procedure followed when a complaint is made
about the police, please find attached a self explanatory leaflet which fully
explains this process.</span></span></div>
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<span lang="en-gb"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Professional Standards Department<br />Police
Scotland<br />PO Box 21184<br />Alloa<br />FK10 9DE </span></span><br />
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-64287718083518587902014-05-07T00:50:00.002-07:002014-05-07T06:56:49.646-07:00Police Complaint update: Wednesday 7th May 2014For future reference I will distinguish between the two ongoing complaints by calling one the Glasgow complaint (since the events complained of, began there) and the other, the Aberdeen complaint (since the events complained of took place entirely in Aberdeen).<br />
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<u>Glasgow Complaint</u><br />
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Since no acknowledgement has been received from the Police Service of Scotland for 5 days (albeit including a weekend and bank holiday), I sent the following message at 8.45 on 7/5/14 via their online message system:<br />
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<i>I submitted a complaint on Friday 2nd May via this online form system. I have not received an acknowledgement of receipt. Could you please acknowledge that you have received my complaint and are in the process of dealing with it.</i><br />
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At 9.01 I received the following:<br />
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<span class="132365907-07052014"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">Good Morning,</span></span></div>
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<span class="132365907-07052014"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">Apologises for the delay in Police Scotland responding to your
complaint. We have re-contacted the relevant department who advise will be in
contact in due course.</span></span></div>
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<span class="132365907-07052014"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">Regards</span></span></div>
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<span class="132365907-07052014"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;">Contact Us</span></span></div>
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<span class="132365907-07052014"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: black;">And so it goes on.......</span> </span></span></div>
Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-59845614884359492262014-05-06T04:50:00.000-07:002014-05-07T00:46:59.398-07:00Update Tuesday 6th May 2014: Progress (or lack of) of FAC complaints re AberdeenThe complaint re surveillance and the public order act was submitted online on Friday. It is now lunchtime on Tuesday (Monday was a bank holiday) and no response or acknowledgement has been received.<br />
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Here is the detail of the complaint lodged in Aberdeen which will also be updated here:<br />
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On Monday 14th April I made an official complaint regarding being "routinely stopped" by police Scotland on way home after being at the recent Fans Against Criminalisation protest at the SNP conference in Aberdeen. I attended the local police head quarters to formally make a complaint about the "routine" stop and how the officer spoke to me. My friend who is studying law came with me to advise and witness the complaint whilst writing down what was said during complaint.<br />
The inspector took down my full complaint in writing and I signed it. He also read the information my witness had made and signed to verify they are true and accurate. I was informed that he would investigate the complaint and get back to me in due course with his findings. He also indicated that the complaint may well be passed to a independent board for consideration. I allowed 21 days to pass as thought was fair amount of time to allow police to do what needed and contacted them for a update. I was told the "officer who is dealing with it is on holiday". I asked if anyone else could deal with it and also asked when the officer is due back as I'd like a update. <br />
I was told only the Inspector can deal with the complaint and that he could not give me information regarding a officers' annual leave. At that point I thanked him and left.<br />
I am very unsatisfied by how whole thing has been handled and going to take further legal advice on this matter<br />
I will, of course, keep you updated as things progress. I'd like to thank all those involved with Fans Against Criminalisation & Celtic Trust for continued support also to everyone else who sent messages of support. We must stand as one until the Offensive Behaviour Act is scrapped and that needs to be done immediately!<br />
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-7484747865965296322014-05-02T06:38:00.000-07:002014-05-02T06:38:48.037-07:00FAC goes to SNP conference, gets intimidated and one FACer complains to the Police Service of Scotland!Following the events of 12th April which are detailed in an earlier post, I have decided, with the backing of FAC, to formally complain to the Police Service of Scotland about what happened to us that day. I have also written to my MSP to complain and I would encourage others who were there that day to do likewise. One of the local supporters has also complained formally about his treatment that day and we hope to bring you updates about the resolution of that complaint.<br />
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We also thought it would be useful to post updates of the process so that people who are considering complaining to the Police can see how the process works and hopefully encourage people to make complaints and keep the system as clean as it possibly can be.<br />
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There are a number of ways you can go about this and they are detailed in a helpful booklet produced by the Police themselves and which can be found at:<br />
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<a href="http://www.scotland.police.uk/assets/pdf/138327/147514/complaints-about-the-police-guide?view=Standard">http://www.scotland.police.uk/assets/pdf/138327/147514/complaints-about-the-police-guide?view=Standard</a></div>
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I gave them the details they needed and typed in the substance of my complaint, which was:</div>
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<b>I would like to lodge a complaint against the PSS for the
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<b>1.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A coach departing
from George Square, Glasgow and collecting other passengers on Edinburgh Road,
Baillieston on which I was travelling on 12th April 2014 which was bound for
Aberdeen to protest outside of the SNP Spring Conference was subject to
surveillance by an unmarked police car for no good reason.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This was intimidating, unnecessary and a
breach of my right of assembly.</b></div>
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<b>2.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>On arrival in
Aberdeen I, and the other 18 members of our protest group, were issued with a
Section 12 Notice under the Public Order Act.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>This was unwarranted, disproportionate, intimidating, excessive,
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<b>3.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A police car
positioned itself directly in front of our coach as we left the conference area
and the officer stated that he had been given instructions to escort us out of
the city of Aberdeen.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Despite our
objection, the car did escort us for a short distance.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This was unwarranted, intimidating,
unnecessary, a waste of public resources, and an attempt to further intimidate
me (and others) and discourage us from exercising our right of peaceful assembly,
freedom of speech and freedom to protest peacefully.</b></div>
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I pressed Send and I now await a response. I will keep you posted on this blog!<b> </b></div>
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-62508372793050989692014-04-16T10:26:00.002-07:002014-04-16T10:26:19.615-07:00Referendum on the OB: Discussion piece from @contentiouspest<br />
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<span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><b>The
following is a piece written by an opponent of the Offensive Behaviour
Act and we would welcome your thoughts on his proposals.</b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: large;">Aberdeen SNP conference: Free to listen inside but prevented from speaking outside, a new Scotland awaits! Wider implications?</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><b> </b></span></div>
<span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">
<div>
For me there are a few important points to make note of in the
aftermath of football supporter efforts to highlight an offensive &
harassing act at a venue where the very focus ironically' was on
freedom. Beginning with the OB act an act which was imposed following a football match now seen as much ado about nothing much at all. It was hurried in, designed by an SNP led Scottish government to
protect citizens from alleged offense and/or harassment at or
travelling to or from a football match.</div>
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Communication scrutiny was thrown into the mix to bolster a tale
of much needed government control thereby creating the Offensive
behaviour & threatening communications act. The latter I submit which could quite easily have been
applied/enforced during any of the Nicola Sturgeon televised debates so
far.</div>
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Yes indeed there are a few important points to note in the aftermath of FAC visiting Aberdeen. </div>
<div>
They highlighted by their very presence what is an offensive
& harassing act shown by the actions taken against them 'the
protesters' to subdue their right to challenge it. Democracy, any democracy, is built on certain freedoms and at
the forefront of those freedoms are one's freedom of movement, speech
& freedom of expression. All three appear to be under attack by this offensive behaviour
& threatening communications act and that act is indeed showing a
widening of it's remit.</div>
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As far as I am aware there was no plan to travel too or from any football stadia arranged for this Aberdeen trip. It was meant solely to highlight the failings of a
malfunctioning football act & therefore any implementation of an OB
type football regulation against such a gathering would I believe, be
flawed in applying those very laws to prevent it. Resistance shown to those who traveled to Aberdeen to
communicate their concerns over the flawed thinking in the
implementation of the act in my opinion, prove a point in case. </div>
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</div>
<div>
Travel too (movement) placards shown (expression) suppression of
views (speech) were challenged by those operating the laws for the
creators of the law. Acting on behalf of politicians unwilling to
address it's faults.</div>
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<div>
It's said the number of convictions or episodes of complaint
regarding offence or harassment pertaining to football cannot be
manufactured to suit and it's said the figures are so low they actually lay waste to any need for such an act (in it's entirety) to begin with. It would seem especially so when considering the vast numbers in
attendance at football matches or otherwise involved in the sport. A drop in the ocean and a hammer to crack a nut immediately spring to mind. Or political posturing for self interest & commercial reward ?</div>
<div>
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<div>
For many the only game of shame that football supporters should be concerned about is the political one. Placards on the day were held aloft, some of which requested 'END FAN HARASSMENT' .</div>
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<div>
It is interesting to note according to those present from what I
have so far read, that restrictive forms of harassment were deployed on
the day in a type of role reversal of the very act brought in,
initially it's said, to deny it's growth. I am led to believe although not myself being present, that
irritation or harassment began before a wheel had been turned on the
road to this SNP conference. </div>
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<div>
It's said it then continued on route to Aberdeen with the
worrying prospect of a welcome committee suspected of not being too
welcoming at all. One wonders if all activists, protesters or concerned
citizens/voters would be worthy of similar attention?</div>
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</div>
<div>
It's said that that warm welcome unbelievably hit a strange
climax 'without much relish' over the prospect of a few double
cheeseburgers for hungry mouths at a commercially viable 'food-bank' as
(Big Mac) McAskill's boys reinforced the very fan harassment
his office is supposed to prevent by rolling out prohibitive laws on
peaceful demonstration or movement in an attempt perhaps to save
Independence campaign blushes. Not an almighty issue as chicken burgers would lay waiting in the 'wings' for a later snack, If my guess would be correct. These restrictive tactics though serve only to validate football fan concerns. </div>
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<div>
You see a refusal to engage protesters without trotting out
regulations designed to suppress and prohibit that very engagement,
prohibitions placed against ordinary people who are themselves expected
to visit a ballot box in support of these self same
legislators, is for me a quandary indeed. </div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
The more the political disengagement on this FAC issue or
'indeed any other' regardless which are the most important to you the
reader, the more one must question what sort of Government a Scottish
people should expect waiting in those very wings come
Scottish Independence. A non listening one? It has a distinct dictatorial feel about it to my mind.</div>
<div>
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</div>
<div>
The FAC issue may be seen as small and merely nuisance value
in the thoughts of many in Scottish society, perhaps those not attuned
to a footballing mantra. But for me it is much more than that.</div>
<div>
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<div>
There are those who may feel footballing concerns are not much
for them to be worried about but when one advances the same 'do as we
say' logic on other issues, issues individually serious enough for them
to take notice, the bedroom tax for instance,
then the future outlook could be a rather bleak one indeed. Where is the
route to challenge?</div>
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</div>
<div>
You see the politicians (most of them) will listen when it
involves votes that may guarantee them power & perhaps that is a
thought to be remembered come referendum day.</div>
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<div>
Referendum now there's an thing.</div>
<div>
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<div>
Would this Government be so ready to offer a football fan
referendum on the removal of an act rather than an early review sideshow
where ultimately the long grass can inevitably come into play until of
course one's vote for power position is required
again ?.</div>
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I doubt such a referendum would be entertained but as they say, if you don't ask? Perhaps such as Mr McMahon could propose such a motion? Besides such a Referendum refusal in itself could provide an example of those expressive denials. Denials of those freedoms of speech, movement and expression,
rights that this very government would demand from a deaf and
suffocating Westminster government who have been so long & so very
out of touch with citizens across the UK but particular to
those of a Scottish persuasion. Oh the Irony.
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You see for me the potential is there for Scottish people voting
for freedom but instead ending up voting for a freedom that feels
rather more like imprisonment. The voice denied. With Government imposed restrictions on free movement and an
unwillingness to listen or act on complaint & in denial of it's
citizens concerns, then what type of freedom would that be?<span dir="ltr"></span></div>
</span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span dir="ltr"><div>
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<div>
The numbers who made this Aberdeen trip or who previously
gathered at Gallowgate or George square or others that have taken to any
and all arranged events may not have been enough in number to make
National news (by National I mean UK national) but
their worthy efforts still manage to produce enough of a tizzy from
authority figures to confuse who is actually harassing whom. You see using an act itself as a legal tool to remove or at
least curtail the most fundamental basic rights and one's right to
demonstrate those, cannot easily pass unnoticed.
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</span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span dir="ltr"><div>
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<div>
At present this is still a free society is it not? This imposed anti football fan act is for me is an example of what power in the wrong hands can do. It brings into question the very nature of conference. It brings into focus a bleak future vision, that of an
Independent Scotland where people are no more than commodities and an
end to a means for the powerful to deny them their long established
rights.
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</span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span dir="ltr"><div>
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<div>
The FAC campaign should have the attention of every football fan and a wider audience still. This act and the refusal to retract or adjust it's parameters
merely opens up a window serving notice of the potential for similarly
felt future injustices against citizens of the Country. Now that's
Independent all right, Independent of thought.
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</span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span dir="ltr"><div>
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<div>
This act is not only a Celtic supporter issue although on
appearance it could be seen to be that way, but then Celtic supporters
feel they are the most selected and offended against group affected by
this act. They feel singled out for a special attention and those feelings
in themselves stir questions as to why that could possibly be?<span dir="ltr"></span></div>
</span></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><span dir="ltr"><div>
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A rather more serious road of questioning for a potentially Independent Scotland and it's government to travel along.</div>
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So.</div>
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: Referendum for Scottish Independence ?</div>
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: Referendum for football fans on OB & TC acts ?</div>
<div>
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Why not both from a Government of the people for the people in waiting ?</div>
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</span></span></span>Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-7430187998374071122014-04-13T14:03:00.003-07:002014-07-10T17:09:11.306-07:00FAC goes to Aberdeen and gets a Section 12 Notice: Day Two<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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The plan by FAC to organise a protest at SNP Spring 2014
conference was made a few weeks before the event.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was advertised on social media and on
websites belonging to the organisations which make up FAC.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Nothing too earthshattering here it has to be
said – pretty standard stuff for single-issue campaigns such as our one against
the Offensive Behaviour Act.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>On the
Thursday before the event (which took place on weekend of 11/12 April) the
police emailed one of the organisers on her work email address instead of using
the FAC email address which was widely available via the publicity for the
event itself.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Despite this, the
organisers co-operated fully with the police in terms of outlining their arrangements,
plans and expected numbers.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We were a
bit surprised when they told us they had ‘intelligence’ which suggested that
smoke bombs would be let off, but ignored it as the nonsense it so patently
was.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They made a few more calls but
there were no real issues to discuss and it all felt like overkill really.</div>
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The Friday protest which was made up of a small number of
local activists passed off fairly successfully with the police directing the
group to a suitable spot near the entrance to the venue and some delegates
coming out to speak to the protesters (see earlier blog). </div>
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On Saturday the bus left Glasgow city centre with a very
disappointing turnout (which has to be discussed at an appropriate time) <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Our members boarding the bus noticed they were
under surveillance from<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>two men in a
Grey Astra which had gone round the Square a few times then parked near the
departure point. The occupants of the bus suspected the occupants of the car
may in fact be police officers; some people expressed concern that they may
have been filmed or photographed entering the bus, others suggested that they
may be there to observe the large number of Dundee Utd fans who were gathering
outside the Counting House waiting on it opening. So everyone on the bus was
prepared to accept that the heavy police presence was to do with fans of the
other clubs playing a match later that afternoon – no paranoia on our bus! The
bus set off and joined the M8 when one of the passengers noticed the Grey Astra
was following the bus; we then realised that this was an unmarked police car.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Further confirmation came when the bus left
the M8 at junction 9 to pick up some more people on the Edinburgh Road, the
Grey Astra followed and parked up in a car park near the pickup point. We don’t
know exactly how long the car followed the bus; it was still there by time we
got to Gartcosh.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A bit crazy we thought
– especially since our number consisted of people aged in every decade from the
1<sup>st</sup> to the 6<sup>th</sup> – hardly a band of hardened rioter!</div>
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Anyway, the rest of the journey continued quietly enough and
we reached the AECC in Bridge of Don just after 1pm.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As we approached the roundabout outside the
venue we could see police officers waiting and radioing forward.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>As we pulled to a halt we were met with a
number of officers and some of the conference security people.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A sergeant approached to greet us and one of
our organisers was handed a typewritten sheet headed ‘Strategic Intention’ (link
to follow).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Our woman just folded it and
put it in her pocket!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We were told that
they would ‘escort’ us up to a place in front of the entrance but that the
venue security people wanted a word first.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>In the spirit of co-operativeness, for which we are known (!), our rep
approached the dark suited securocrats who had a very important message to
convey.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I quote ‘We have babies and
young children here, so could you please not cover your faces because it will
frighten them.’<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That is a verbatim
quote – I kid you not!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Our rep just
shook her head, told them not to be so stupid, told them we had children with
us too; asked if that was all they had to say, and walked away!</div>
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We had carried with us 3 pensioners and a 12-year old who
were just coming along for the ride and our driver was going to drop them in
town and then come back for them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The
police seemed a bit upset that he was moving the bus again but finally agreed
to ‘let’ him do it.</div>
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Anyway, off we trooped, now joined by the guys from Aberdeen
who were there for the second day, and made our way round to an area enclosed
by crash barriers facing the front entrance.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>One of our number stepped away from the group to head to the front
entrance to stub a cigarette out on the ashtray.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Immediately a female police officer rushed
towards him and laid her hands on him to push him away.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He had to explain what he was doing before she
would step back.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Another of our number
had also stopped to wait for him coming back and she was approached to ask why
she was separate from the group (which was then radioed in to someone).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></div>
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By this time the rest of us had arrived at the designated
area and were just about to put our banner up and sort out the placards, when
another senior officer arrived, Chief Inspector Nick Topping.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He called us over and advised us that Police
Scotland were issuing a Section 12 Notice under the Public Order Act as he
feared that a public procession might take place: <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he specifically mentioned the possibility that
we might go to McDonalds along the road!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>He indicated that the effect of the Notice was that we could only move
from that area in groups of ‘no more than 5 or 6’ .<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He was asked if any other protest group had
been issued with this Notice, for instance UNISON who had been there earlier
that day, and he replied no.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He said
that he was acting on the orders of Chief Superintendent Watson, Aberdeen
division.</div>
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He then left accompanied by assorted flunkies, leaving us in
the capable hands of two very affable chaps in uniform who stayed so close to
us all day that I feel quite lost without them today! <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We then proceeded to the business of the day,
which was to let the SNP delegates know what their leadership had done in their
name.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A number of them approached us to
ask what it was about.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The really scary
thing over the two days was the dawning realisation that many SNP members have
no clue about this Act and the damage it is doing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>John Mason MSP approached us, as he always
does, and peddled his ‘we introduced this to protect the Irish and the
Catholics’ line.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Note to John:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this is becoming very tiresome, so please try
to think up a new one which actually fits with the facts.</div>
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Some SNP activists were less than pleased about our chants
etc.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One elderly lady...well, woman,
shoved her face into a protester in a very aggressive way in front of the
police.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The police officers moved in as
though to protect her and not the victim....same old, same old!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We filmed delegates and asked them how they
liked being filmed while going about their lawful business.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>All the while we were being filmed by police
officers from inside the building; we saw them and filmed them back!</div>
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During the protest we were also approached by a number of
journalists from different countries.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>From the UK we had the Guardian, the Sunday Mail and the Sun.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We spoke extensively to the real journalists
but the Sun reporter was sent packing across the road with the words ‘Justice
for the 96’ ringing in his ears.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Despite
loads of photographs being taken by the press, none seem to have made it into
the Sunday papers.</div>
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At 3pm we knew that Alex Salmond, who like his Deputy Leader
did not arrive at his own conference via the front door, would be
speaking.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One of the organisers called
the group together to outline what we wanted to do next ie take a wee break and
then prepare for all the SNP delegates leaving at the end of his speech and
therefore the conference.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The two police
officers seemed a bit miffed that they were not invited to that particular
briefing and tried to edge closer, asking as they did, ‘Is there a move on?’.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, they did provide us with bottled
water later on, so they mustn’t have been too upset.</div>
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The next half hour was a massive success for our group.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The delegates exited into the late afternoon
sun all pleased with themselves, with their backs sore from all the slapping,
only to be confronted with a group of well-organised, vocal and well-focussed
(!) demonstrators.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They were greeted with
chants of ‘What do we want?’<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>‘Axe the
Act’ , ‘When do we want it?’ ‘Now; SS-SNP;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Alex Salmond, Alex Salmond, we know you sneaked in the back;<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>SNP!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Shame on You; we sang Let the People Sing; we played music over the
loudhailer; our man on the loudhailer kept up a running commentary on all that
was wrong with the Act; he pleaded with delegates to question their leadership
about whether this Act would damage their chances of delivering a Yes
vote.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Towards the end we spontaneously
burst into a rendition of Roll of Honour.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>No one was offended and, even if they were, it is not an offence anyway,
since we were not ‘in the context of a regulated football match’ .</div>
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One of our friendly minders asked to be given 5 minutes
notice of our departure time so that they could come with us.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We duly packed up, leaving the area free of
all litter, and headed back towards our bus only to find that our bus was
blocked in by a police car, making it impossible for us to move. One of our
members spoke to the officer in the car and asked why they were there, saying
‘are you here to escort us out of the city’ to which he replied ‘yes that is
our instructions’.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Our man then told him
that we didn’t feel the need for an escort and, in actual, fact we would be
picking up our wee pensioner group in town and then we might, as law-abiding
citizens, decide to stop for a bite to eat or a few pints, but that we hadn’t
decided.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The officer then boarded the
bus and asked the driver where we were picking up the other group, but insisted
on scouting us right up to a roundabout about a mile from the conference
centre.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Another officer then told us that the ‘next time we came
up he would expect at least 3 days notice’ – I never thought of it at the time
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The rest of the journey home was uneventful and involved a
pretty good sing-song on the bus.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>However, one of the local boys was stopped by the police on his way home
and told this was a ‘routine’ stop but they took the trouble to let him know
that they knew where he had been.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He
questioned them on their right to stop him and for his trouble was called a
‘smart-arse’.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That particular incident
will be the subject of a complaint to the Aberdeen police.</div>
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All in all, it was a pretty successful day but it was a long
day and it all fell on the shoulders of a very small number of people and that
is not right.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We will take legal advice
about the Section 12 Notice because we are fairly sure it was a
disproportionate action and therefore unlawful.</div>
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FAC will review these events and decide the next steps to
take in the campaign.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The next Open
Meeting will take place on 14<sup>th</sup> May and I expect it will be
discussed there as well.</div>
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In the meantime, the fight goes on.....
Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-60925138430065159162014-04-11T10:52:00.002-07:002014-04-11T10:52:39.929-07:00Personal Account from one of the FAC protesters at SNP Conference today (Friday 11 April 2014)<div>
Today a small group of Celtic supporters from Aberdeen and the surrounding
areas met at the AECC to protest against the Offensive behaviour and threatening
communications act 2012 at the SNP party conference. The reason behind this
protest was to not only highlight the continuous criminalisation of football
fans in Scotland, but to raise awareness and put pressure on the SNP to conduct
an early review into the act as it is clearly not working. MSP's across the land
have shown their concerns regarding the bill and would also like to see an early
review, yet the SNP believe 5 years is a reasonable time to hold one.</div>
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Before things kicked off today there was concerns raised from Police that
those in support of FAC today would be in posession of smoke bombs. This was
completely untrue and certainly no one attending a protest against the treatment
of football fans would jeopardise that in any way. When the group arrived at the
AECC, the police were quick to assist them and let them know where they would be
allowed to carry out the protest. We did notice that while the police officer was talking to us, two of his colleagues were filming us from inside the building. We asked why this was and were told that it is 'standard procedure'! I suppose it is no more than we are used to now, after two years of this Act.</div>
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Throughout the protest there were numerous interactions between the group
and SNP members who were quick to come over for a chat. What surprised most was
that those who were unsure about what FAC were protesting about, was that they
thought the bill hadn't been introduced yet. Not many people outside of football
seem to know about this, so educating those today will certainly do the campaign
some good. A few of the members also showed support for the campaign stating
that the bill is "not fit for purpose" and "football fans should be looked
after, not targetted". </div>
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Journalists from "The Financial Times" and "The Scotsman" asked for more
information but the group decided it was best left for some of the organisers of
FAC to deal with tomorrow. </div>
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Thanks to all who attended today and the effort put in standing for 3 hours
waiting for Nicola Sturgeon MSP and her colleagues, who saved themselves the
embarrassment of being challenged by FAC supporters by sneaking in a rear
entrance to the building. Shame on you!</div>
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-47496192701875577402014-04-07T09:41:00.000-07:002014-04-10T10:45:27.923-07:00Lets take it to the SNP - demand an Early Review Now!The SNP conference in Aberdeen this weekend cannot be allowed to be an occasion for back-slapping and self-congratulation while the wholly illiberal Offensive Behaviour at Football Act remains on the statute books and while the SNP government resolutely refuses to acknowledge what they know to be true: this Act is an abomination and it needs to go!<br />
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In spite of numerous emails and pressure from many sources to review this Act, the SNP government are closing their ears and distorting the statistics to cover up the fact that the Act does not work - all it does is criminalise otherwise law-abiding young people for 'offences' that would not be an 'offence' anywhere other than in relation to a football match.<br />
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Fans Against Criminalisation are organising at protest at the SNP conference this weekend. Buses will be leaving from Glasgow and Edinburgh and local opponents of the Act are organising to be there as we write. <br />
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<b>Friday protest: assemble at McDonalds at 1pm and walk down as a group to the AECC. Banner and placards will be there.</b><br />
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<b>Saturday protest: buses leaving Edinburgh at 9 and Glasgow (George Square) at 9.30 and leaving Aberdeen around 4.15. If you are arriving separately then assemble at 1pm at McDonalds and walk down to AECC from there.</b><br />
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Please support the protest by:<br />
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<ol>
<li><b>book a place on the bus and come with us to tell the SNP what we think of this Act</b></li>
<li><b>make a donation to cover the cost of the buses, placards and other materials even if you can't attend on the day.</b></li>
</ol>
To book a place contact us on fansagainstcriminalisation@gmail.com<br />
<br />Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-24186924954995202912014-03-06T09:26:00.000-08:002014-03-06T09:27:26.861-08:00Celtic FC Statement and an Early ReviewFans Against Criminalisation are encouraged that Celtic Football Club has publicly called for an early review of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act. We agree entirely with the club’s assertion that the act is ‘’unhelpful and counter-productive’’ and that there is sufficient evidence to support an immediate review, which we feel is clearly in the public interest. To wait any longer is merely to allow greater time for this act to cause further damage to the lives of football supporters.<br />
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FAC would like to work together with Celtic Football Club as well as the entire Celtic support to continue to challenge this dangerous and discriminatory law. It is of crucial importance that there is a unified front on this issue and that there is sustained public pressure on the SNP to accept that this act simply has not worked. <br />
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Fans Against CriminalisationFans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-3391626652733066292014-02-17T13:20:00.001-08:002014-02-18T11:54:47.015-08:00Roll of Honour Campaign: assessment<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="_GoBack"></a><br />
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Fans Against Criminalisation’s ‘Roll of Honour’ download
campaign has now officially come to a close with the song incredibly reaching
number 33 in the UK Official Singles Charts. Over the course of our campaign the
song has also came in at number 15 on the iTunes singles download charts,
number 32 in the Official Irish Charts and number 7 in the Scottish Charts.<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>We would like to sincerely thank the
Celtic fans for the manner in which they supported this initiative. We are
immensely grateful to the thousands who downloaded the song, to those who gave
up their time to help leaflet a cold and wet Celtic Park about the issue and to
everyone who in some way helped to publicise our cause.<br />
<br />
We would also like to extend our heartfelt thanks to The Irish Brigade, who generously
allowed us to use their song for our campaign. The band recognise the scale of
the problem currently facing football fans in Scotland and have helped FAC
immeasurably as we seek to challenge the Offensive Behaviour at Football and
Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act.<br />
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In launching this campaign, FAC sought to demonstrate how absurd it is that
people run the risk of arrest and conviction on the basis of singing a song at
a football match which would otherwise not be a criminal offence. Having now
heard a short clip of this song on BBC Radio, we feel that we have made that
point. It is wrong to criminalise a specific group of people in the manner in
which this act targets only football supporters. It is an injustice that ther<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="_GoBack"></a>e is a backlog of Celtic fans awaiting trial for allegedly
singing a song which could be bought on iTunes or heard on national radio. <br />
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On the issue of ‘Roll of Honour’ being given airtime, a BBC source stated “We
believe it would be wrong to ban the song outright as free speech is an
important principle’’. It is a great pity that The Scottish National Party,
Police Scotland and our Lord Advocate do not equally value such a principle
however the Celtic support have defiantly demonstrated that we will not bow
down on this issue. We will continue to fight the criminalisation of football
supporters and we refuse to allow our civil liberties to be infringed upon by
this discriminatory legislation. The SNP would do well to take notice of the
discontent regarding the treatment of football fans and call for an immediate
review of this Act.<br />
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Fans Against Criminalisation</div>
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<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="_GoBack"></a><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;">It
was an honour and privilege to be asked by Celtic Fans against Criminalisation’
to permit them to promote the song ‘The Roll of Honour’<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>to aid the funding of their campaign against
the law that effects everyone with Irish roots or a love of Irish culture.
Ballads have been an integral part of our culture and heritage from time in
memorial and the role of the Bards and Street Singers holds a unique and
honoured place in our history.</span></div>
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<span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I wrote the song ‘The Roll of Honour’ in 1982
at a time of great social and political upheaval in the North of Ireland. It
was to commemorate the sacrifice of ten young men who died in the Hunger Strike
of 1981. They, too, were protesting against Criminalisation. The song was a
reflection of the thoughts, feelings and beliefs, held by many in Ireland and
throughout the world who felt that these deaths could have been avoided if the
Brittish Government at that time had not taken such a harsh and unbending
attitude towards the prison crisis. The line “England, you’re a Monster” is
figurative language and is a reference to this belief. The word ‘Monster’ is
defined as someone ‘unnaturally cruel’ – The Government at that time. It is not
or was not, at any time, to be construed as referring to the English Nation or
the people of England, it is not a Racist remark. </span></div>
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<span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;">Neither is the song a
sectarian song. It is an historic, social commentary about one stage in a long
freedom struggle that is still continuing but that now uses democratic paths
and institutions that did not exist in the early 80’s. The ten men commemorated
in the ‘The Roll of Honour’ hope to bring about a land that would cherish…
‘…all the children of the Nation equally’ (Irish Proclamation, 1916). In the
words of Wolfe Tone, <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a protestant leader
of The United Irishmen, they wish to establish a society which would ‘
substitute the name Irish Man in place of Protestant, Catholic or Dissenter’.
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and violence would be a thing of the past:</span></div>
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<span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;"> ‘Our revenge will be the laughter of
our children’ (Bobby Sands)</span></div>
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<span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;">On behalf of The Irish
Brigade.</span></div>
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Fans Against Criminalisation are delighted to announce plans
to release the single ‘’Roll of Honour’’ in association with The Irish Brigade
for the duration of the week beginning on 8<sup>th</sup> of February. This
single will be available for download on iTunes. We would like to thank the
band for kindly allowing us to use their song to help aid our campaign against
the criminalisation of football supporters and the suppression of political
expression.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 18.0pt; line-height: 107%;">Download the
Roll of Honour any time in the week 9 -15 February inclusive and let’s get it
into the UK Top 40 Singles Charts and <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>embarrass the hypocrites who seek to criminalise us. </span></div>
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This particular song is a ballad about civil resistance and a struggle for
basic human rights and it has been a favourite of the Celtic support for over a
decade. Shamefully, the SNP’s Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening
Communications (Scotland) Act has resulted in the song becoming a target for
Police Scotland and numerous arrests have been made as a result. From its outset
FAC has sought to oppose this discriminatory piece of legislation and to defend
the rights of football supporter’s which have been continually eroded since the
Act’s introduction.<br />
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We call on the Celtic family from all corners of the globe to support this
campaign by downloading the single to help raise funds to aid the legal costs
of those whose lives are being torn apart by this disgracefully illiberal law
and to help further publicise the hypocrisy inherent within the government’s
position. <br />
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-29459334748867445542013-12-10T00:59:00.001-08:002013-12-10T00:59:17.430-08:00FAC Statement<div>
Fans Against Criminalisation have noted the statement released
by Celtic yesterday and the media coverage of the events of Friday night at
Fir Park. All of the organisations associated with this campaign (Celtic Supporters' Association, Celtic Trust, Green Brigade, Affiliation of Registered CSCs and Association of Irish CSCs) condemn wanton acts of vandalism and have no objection to those
responsible, if identified and after a fair and transparent investigation, being suitably disciplined. There are
stadium regulations and laws which deal with such actions and our
campaign is not against those laws. We wish to make it clear that what
happened on Friday has absolutely nothing to do with our campaign
against the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act which is a campaign against the criminalisation of free
speech and political expression. We note attempts by the media to conflate the issues of vandalism with legitimate protest and we are confident that fair-minded people will see that for what it is.</div>
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-88717252927387313292013-11-19T07:59:00.001-08:002013-11-20T01:18:46.818-08:00<div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;">
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– Tuesday 19<sup>th</sup> November <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">It
is now 13 days since Celtic played Ajax in Amsterdam. It was a trip many Celtic
supporters had been looking forward to for a variety of reasons since the draw
was made. It is now a journey many wished they hadn’t made.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">What
happened between 5pm and 6pm in and around Damstraat and the National Monument
in Dam Square will stay long in the memory of those who were there. Football
fans are used to strong policing. They are used to being ordered around and
treated as second class citizens. They are used to unjust laws applicable to
only those who follow “our national game”.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">What
we are not used to however is the police brutality which occurred in that hour
and the injustice of the imprisonment, assault and continued detention of fans
whose only crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Ten
Celtic fans still face charges. The exact nature of those charges is still
unclear even 13 days later. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Those
charged have been charged with throwing a bottle later changed to throwing a
green can. They did neither. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">They
have been identified as having red hair in court, subsequently changed to spiky
blonde hair. The accused in question has neither. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">They
have been accused of being so drunk that they were oblivious to any stimuli. The
accused in question is very much aware of every second of the brutal assault
that was launched on him both in Dam Square and then out of sight of any
cameras in a police van. Oblivion to pain and stimuli would have been very
welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Two
fans, Andy Vance and Padraig Mullan have been held since that night. They
remain in prison both still suffering from their injuries and one who has still
not been allowed to wear his own clothes. Both vehemently protest their
innocence but still they are held. Another eight fans face charges, four on
Thursday and another three in January.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">A
remarkable campaign has been launched aimed at securing their release and the
freedom of their co-accused. The campaign began despite initial media reports
of “Celtic Fans Rioting” and the levels of police injury. The campaign has
managed to force a re-examination of the events of Dam Square both in Holland
and somewhat more reluctantly in Scotland. The campaign has also managed to
report the dozens of injuries suffered by Celtic fans and the levels of police
brutality they faced. The fear people described by fans with, no means of
escape, is chilling: men, young and old, women and children.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">To
date the following activities have been undertaken or are being undertaken by a
variety of Celtic fans and organisations:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Contact made with the
families to offer them support and reassurance</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;">
</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Video evidence has been
collated and analysed and this continues</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;">
</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Legal and translation advice
has been given</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Complaints have been
processed and passed on to Celtic FC who is employing a lawyer in Amsterdam to
examine them</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Media work in the
Netherlands and to a more limited extent (for obvious reasons!) in Scotland has
been done</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Letters have been written to
the Dutch Embassy, to the Mayor of Amsterdam, to the Chief of the Dutch Police</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">Protests have been held
outside the Dutch Embassies in Dublin and London and one is now planned for New
York</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">·<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">A Legal Defence Fund was set
up and is currently being supported by supporters all over the world – this
continues alongside local initiatives by CSCs and forums etc</span></li>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">On
Thursday November 21 at 13:30, at Parnassusweg 220, Amsterdam. Celtic fans will
begin the next steps to achieve justice for our supporters and to hold the
police and authorities to account. We wish the full story of what happened in
Dam Square to be told not just in Holland but in Scotland too. We will be
asking for the immediate release of Padraig Mullan and Andy Vance and the
dropping of charges against all of the accused fans.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">We
will then continue our campaign to ask why the Amsterdam police force unleashed
a wave of brutality on our supporters as confirmed by the deluge of statements
received by the #DamJustice campaign and by Celtic FC.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;">We
ask that Celtic supporters continue to support the #DamJustice campaign with
their customary magnificent backing. </span><br />
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">If
you want to help us with the bucket collection at the Aberdeen game on
Saturday 23rd November please email dambhoys8@yahoo.co.uk for details.
We need a lorryload of bucketeers!</span></b><br />
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-70603338442481181642013-06-15T08:54:00.006-07:002013-06-15T08:54:50.167-07:00Ponsonby's triumph and Mulholland's shameYesterday was in interesting news day. We had the publication of the statistics for charges/convictions under the Offensive Behaviour Act and on Religiously Aggravated Crimes in Scotland for 2012-13. STV news gave the issue a 2nd top billing on the 6pm news, the justification for which, when the interview with the Lord Advocate came on, became immediately apparent.<br />
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By now most people will know that, Bernard Ponsonby the veteran Scottish newsman put the following question to the Lord Advocate, Frank Mulholland:<br />
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BP: 'So-called political chanting falls foul of this law?'<br />
Lord Advocate: 'Of course it does yes, as I understand it'.<br />
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Ponsonby follows this up by asking about 'Irish Republican Identity' and asks:<br />
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BP 'An Irish Republican identity is potentially criminal under the Act?'<br />
Lord Advocate:'Potentially criminal under this Act, yes'<br />
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This comment is extremely important and congratulations to Bernard Ponsonby for asking the question when other, lesser, journalists would not. It is not that this was an utterly mad comment from Frank Mulholland that he must feel like a complete clown for saying - although it was and he must. Neither is it that you could actually be arrested for having 'an Irish Republican identity' whatever that might mean, because quite clearly you could not be arrested, or charged or convicted for having any kind of ethnic or political identity.<br />
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The really important thing about it, whether or not any Scottish citizen, journalist or political commentator chooses to acknowledge it, is that it is an open admission (probably of an extremely common albeit almost subconscious mind-set) that there is something dangerous or wrong or potentially criminal to be Irish in Scotland or to believe in a united Ireland. <br />
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If you were to replace the word 'Irish' with any other nationality, the question would have been treated with a bemused look I would suggest. If you were to change the word 'republican' with a description of any other political position, then a similar response would have been forthcoming. It is only those two words - that ethnic identity and that political position - which almost without thinking, elicits concern, suspicion and negativity from many Scots; certainly from the police and from many part of government and other institutions.<br />
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This brings us back to the Act. This Act, very clearly, was never about sectarianism; because, quite rightly, we already had laws to cover that and to cover other forms of bigotry and racism. This was, and still is, about trying to extend the term bigot or hate crime to the expression by Celtic fans of republican views or (except in a very sanitised, commercially-exploitable way) their Irish identity, should they as individuals, or as a group choose to do so.<br />
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For that reason it has not worked, because much as they would love to be able to do so, the government simply, in a modern, European country, cannot criminalise ethnicity or political ideology.<br />
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So all that has happened, and their own statistics show this, is that those people who could have been convicted under the Section 74 offences (justifiably), have instead been convicted under the new Act. Indeed, the Celtic Trust was told by McAllister of the FoCuS group that the police were instructed by the Crown Office to use the new Act, so that is what they have done. <br />
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However, despite their best efforts to get Celtic fans convicted of singing Irish republican songs, the Sheriffs have, to their credit, refused to do it. Not satisfied with this, the Crown Office under Mr Mulholland (with Alex Salmond working him from the back like a ventriloquist) is appealing two of these Not Guilty verdicts. You may be interested to know that appeals are very, very expensive processes and that the Crown Office usually appeals one or two cases a year and usually in case of very serious crimes such as murder or rape. Yet they have two appeals under way right now because the Sheriffs had the temerity not to convict young boys for singing the Roll of Honour.<br />
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So, well done Bernard Ponsonby but shame on you Frank Mulholland. You are a disgrace to your office and if you are remembered at all, it will be as the most craven Lord Advocate ever to have held the post.Fans Against Criminalisationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07655158795178768204noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7461951833001052422.post-45375634330791186442013-06-14T04:11:00.000-07:002013-06-14T05:26:28.775-07:00New Offensive Behaviour Statistics released today - embarrassing flop for the Government<div class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">The Crown
Office under the Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland and the Scottish Government
represented by Roseanna Cunningham have released the statistics for the first
full year of the operation of the Offensive Behaviour at Football: Threatening
Communication Act 2012 tomorrow (Friday 14 June 2013).</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;">For some weeks now they have been making
robust claims that these statistics will show that the Act is working.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;"> </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">We are
currently producing a detailed analysis of the statistics which are far from
impressive in supporting the case for the continuation of this piece of
legislation. However, we can say already
that all that has effectively happened is that there is a fall in those
convicted under the Religiously Aggravated Offences (Section 74) and an almost
equal rise in those convicted under the Offensive Behaviour Act. Not much return on the £1.8 million pounds
allocated to the Football Coordination Unit Scotland who police this Act.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">In addition
to this, what the statistics will never tell us, but which we as football
supporters are only too aware of, is the following:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<li><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">The
number of young people with no previous criminal record or activity who have
come into contact with the police as a result of this Act</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">The
smaller number of young people who have endured 3 or more trips to courts in
all parts of Scotland only to have the charges dropped by the Crown or to be
found Not Guilty</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">The
number of young people who have had their details taken unlawfully by the
police</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">The
number of football fans of all ages who have to run the gauntlet of police
officers in order to attend football matches which are entirely devoid of any
crowd trouble and have been for decades.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; text-indent: -18pt;">The
number of football fans of all ages who are photographed, videoed, monitored
and intimidated by the Football Co-ordination Unit Scotland, the recipient of
£1.8 million of government funding, all spent on harassing private citizens
because they happen to be football fans.</span></li>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">This is the
human cost of the Offensive Behaviour Act however, a press conference will be
held in Glasgow next week in which we will give a detailed analysis of the
figures produced by the government as well as the stories behind the
statistics, which illustrate how this Act has produced a style of policing
about which all citizens should be concerned.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Leading
lawyer Paul Kavanagh, of Gildeas Ltd said today:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i>There is an old saying lies, damn lies and then statistics. <br />
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While every right minded individual would agree that there is no place in
Scotland for bigotry of any kind whether by race, colour or religion the success
of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communication 2012
introduced by the current administration raise interesting questions.<br />
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87 convictions, how many arrested? How many proceeded to trial? How many pled
guilty without legal representation or advice? How many with no previous
experience of the judicial system? What has been the cost of implementing the
act, policing it etc?<br />
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How do we measure success? Do we measure it with regard the number of
convictions? Do we measure it with regard the huge number of young football
fans forced by police unlawfully to give them their personal details? Do we measure
it by the decreasing number of football fans attending games or do we
eventually measure it by taking a poll of young football fans and their voting
intentions at next year’s referendum and whether they will vote for
independence? </i><br />
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